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\name{ldetS}\alias{ldetS}\title{Getting log generalized determinant of penalty matrices}\usage{ldetS(Sl, rho, fixed, np, root = FALSE,Stot=FALSE,repara = TRUE,nt = 1,deriv=2,sparse=FALSE)}\arguments{\item{Sl}{the output of \code{Sl.setup}.}\item{rho}{the log smoothing parameters.}\item{fixed}{an array indicating whether the smoothing parameters are fixed (or free).}\item{np}{number of coefficients.}\item{root}{indicates whether or not to return the matrix square root, \code{E}, of the total penalty S_tot.}\item{Stot}{indicates whether or not to return the total penalty S_tot.}\item{repara}{if TRUE multi-term blocks will be re-parameterized using \code{gam.reparam}, anda re-parameterization object supplied in the returned object.}\item{nt}{number of parallel threads to use.}\item{deriv}{order of derivative to use}\item{sparse}{should \code{E} and/or \code{S} be sparse?}}\value{A list containing: \itemize{\item{\code{ldetS}: the log-determinant of S. }\item{\code{ldetS1}: the gradient of the log-determinant of S. }\item{\code{ldetS2}: the Hessian of the log-determinant of S. }\item{\code{Sl}: with modified rS terms, if needed and rho added to each block }\item{\code{rp}: a re-parameterization list. }\item{\code{E}: a total penalty square root such that \code{t(E)\%*\%E = S_tot} (if \code{root==TRUE}). }\item{\code{S}: the total penalty matrix (if \code{Stot==TRUE}).}}}\description{INTERNAL function calculating the log generalized determinant of penalty matrix S stored blockwise in an Sl list(which is the output of \code{Sl.setup}).}\author{Simon N. Wood <simon.wood@r-project.org>.}